Let there be obnoxious lights in the RV park

By Chuck Woodbury

After reading this, please answer the poll below.

That’s a neighbor’s RV above. He turns on the lights every evening and leaves them on until about midnight. He’s a couple of sites away, so the light isn’t too bright on my plot of rented space. The only time I have seen him leave the RV in the evening was to escort his small dog on a peeing mission. The dog, by the way, wore a collar that blinked red and green.

The owner of this RV liked showing off his RV at night by keeping his awning light on.

Thanks to the miracle of LED lights, many RVs are now equipped with a variety of outdoor lighting. Many, like my current neighbor’s fifth wheel, have a string of lights across the awning. They are usually white, but sometimes they’re colored, adding extra ambiance to the scene that we fondly recall from our days of staying in sleazy motels with their blinking neon lights.

The lucky owners of Montana 5th wheels can light up the campground with built-in lights up front. 

If you happen to be next to a light-happy RVer then your options at night if you’re not into unwanted illumination are to close your blinds or leave them open and pretend you’re in one of those motels from your youth.

In one park where I stayed an RVer erected a flagpole above his motorhome. It had a bright, rotating beacon at the top. When I first saw it from a distance I thought “Oh, I didn’t know there was an airport so close.” 

This globe constantly changed shapes and colors! There’s no need for TV when free entertainment like this is available.

Another RVer, at another park, with the urge to entertain his neighbors, displayed a somewhat sophisticated device on his motorhome’s dashboard, as you can see in the photo. It changed colors and patterns continuously. I thought that perhaps if I were to concentrate on it Gail could repeat to me, “You are going deeper and deeper to sleep.” Maybe, just maybe, I would slip into a hypnotic state. Later, any time Gail said to me, “Remember cardiovascular disease,” I would immediately head off for a brisk two-mile walk.

And then there’s the RVer who wins my prize for the most obnoxious display of campground lighting. To be fair, I snapped this photo near the first of December, so Christmas was on the way. But imagine all those colored dots constantly moving, not only lighting up the RV but the tree above. If you were his neighbor and loved displays of multi-colored quickly moving lights, then you would be in a heaven. It would be a little bit of Times Square or Las Vegas right in your campground!

Ah. . . life in a modern-day RV park!

So what do you think?

 

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87 Thoughts to “Let there be obnoxious lights in the RV park”

  1. Kom Dixon

    RV Parks have rules about when one can run the generator, why not rules about lights. Just because you rent a space doesn’t give you the right to do what ever you want with it. It’s all about respecting your neighbor.

  2. Kit Frost

    I am in agreement that “live and let live” should include consideration of neighbors, at home and at the campground. I understand the need for personalization and decoration of our campers, but do NOT like when my camping neighbor overdoes the outdoor lighting past “quiet time”. Flashlights work and so does the on/of switch at my camper door so I can turn lights on before I step out and night, and turn them off again when I return to the interior.

    As a camper I am sometimes reticent to approach my neighbors to ask that lights be dimmed or turned off.

  3. Denny wagaman

    we Don’t like closing our blinds as we don’t like living in a cave. We have our blinds open the majority of time night or day. Why live like a mole? Dressing or undressing is done in the bedroom or bathrooms. We are not that important to be watched or looked at. Security? Lock your doors. Please don’t leave your lights on all night.
    Rudeness is the norm. It’s everwhere. Sadly. Older age crankeyness is because we remember when most people were nice, kind and considerate of others. 😁

  4. Denny wagaman

    I don’t believe it. Your right to Invade my space includes your lights however and whereever you want and you can’t turn them off or on as you use or need them? Are you entitled to do whatever you feel you need to do without consideration for your neighbor? If I had problems with those critters guess what? I would darn well move to another CG, another city or state! Those are just excuses to do what you want to do.

  5. Jay French

    WoW !!
    Read all the complaints, warnings, laughed at the “Light Pollution” & basically wonder why some believe they have a Right to total darkness while camping in a full hookup RV Resort with another RV parked 15 to 30 feet distant.
    Here in Louisiana, non-bug lights attract mosquito’s by the thousands & are never used.
    However, the only time I invade RV Resorts is to attend an LSU or Saints Party which is usually a huge TV set up, a bonfire, barbecues & such going with generally 30 invited & 40 attending since we welcome others to join us.
    Otherwise I am camping out a week or longer at a time in a National forest where only during the Friday to Sunday weekenders are crowded.
    Have never noticed many obnoxious light shows late at night after 10pm in the forests. Most use safety lighting around their areas & a few have motion lighting. Some go total dark as their personal preference.
    However, I do not complain or feel violated, become upset or disillusioned unless their dog is left outside & continually barks or they believe in sharing their personal choice of music at high decibel levels.
    Frankly, they pay the same $$’s for their space as I did & it is their Right to use that space as per Park Rules. Life is too short to sweat the small stuff.

  6. Dean

    We live and RV in the Northwest mostly, and we have string of led lights around our class A to help keep mice and pack rats away, I do believe it works well, I do wonder if it bothers my camping neighbors , when they ask about our lights and I explain why we have them they seem very interested in getting some for themselves.

    1. Willie

      The rats and mice thank you for lighting their way at night!

  7. Cecilia

    Just this weekend, I camped at a state park with my new RV for the very first time. I turned on the yellow porch light which includes blue lighting to the steps and handrails to take out the dog to potty one last time for the night. I found the lights unintentionally left on all night the next morning. Previously being a tent camper and respecting other campers desire for no light pollution, I felt apologetic. Fortunately the park was not busy and we were all spread out with a good distance between us. The light did not illuminate beyond my area. I feel the lights are there for our safety and for others whose purpose is to deter animals and insects. Other than that, i prefer to enjoy the dark night or I would rent a hotel and live in the city if I can’t escape the lights. No thanks! Feel free to remind me to turn mine off.

  8. Booneyrat

    It’s just another “me too” thing.

  9. Trish

    We winter out in Tucson where there is a BIG PROBLEM with pack rats. This winter one chewed through a neighbor’s power steering cable ($400 repair); another site had their battery cables chewed to bits. Apparently the rats are attracted to rubber, electrical wiring insulation and whatever else they can get inside a vehicle..
    However, they do not like light. Thus, many of us run strands of lighting around our RVs. We leave the lights on overnight.
    Surprisingly, we can sit outside at midnight and still have a clear view of the sky.

    1. Crys

      Have learned that wiring now may have a soy based insolating covering. SOY is a food and varmints have a hankering for it. Cotton tails have done $1000.’s of damage to our equipment and RV. Bought a couple strings of ‘5’ lights each and put them under hoods and in engine compartments. If they get into the computer wires you may never move again. BUT cardboard ‘blinds can help keep the light from being a nuisance to our ‘neighbors’. I prefer the dark to all the bling.

  10. Doug

    You needed one more option – ask him to turn them off!

  11. Sharon

    I truely believe most of the ground illuimination is used to check the area for unwanted critters wandering/creeping around. We are in AZ with plenty of critters! Rattlers, scorpions, skunks, centipedes, and javalina’s to list a few. Some which could easily ” kill” a pet without emergency treatment. We, as well have rope lights on the ground lighting our dogs path.

  12. livingboondockingmexico

    LEDs are definitely an energy saver. However, the world is becoming more illuminated and it is having an effect on Mother Nature. You can check the light differences before and after the introduction of LEDs along with the many articles regarding their overuse.

    We prefer boondocking and on a very rare occasion have we encountered obnoxious people. We travel mostly in Mexico so we have less developed camping areas than the U.S. I couldn’t imagine being parked next to security light, that would defeat the purpose of my rving.

    So keep your habits to yourselves. You want string lightsand LEDs, go for it but use them inside your rv. No one cares how cool it looks, it only matters to you.

  13. Rory

    It seems everyone has a pet peeve, it is as though we can’t live in close proximity to each other. Some people go overboard with everything they do, and there are those who find something to complain about, even if it’s those darn jack boots the spider has on, as he goose steps across the roof. No one communicates, everyone complains to a higher authority. They get so many complaints, it is no wonder that many times their action is to do nothing but stare at the complaintant as though they are listening, while trying to remember what is the base number for 2,177.

  14. Don

    I would love to see campgrounds and rv parks adopt “dark sky” policies.

    1. Cathy

      Totally agree. We travel with telescopes and like to set them up to share the night sky with folks, and to do some astrophotography.

      Outside lights makes it difficult to see, enjoy & share the night sky.

  15. TerrinJoe

    Bright lighting should fall under the same category as loud noise…. so when we are at music festivals it is no big deal but when we are in state parks solar lights should be the limit. Ours are dim & barely light up under our awning but are more than enough after eyes adjust to the beautiful darkness to enjoy the stars above.

  16. Bob Godfrey

    Once again it’s all about respect. Is is really necessary to have all those lights on? Are you saying “hey look at me I bought all these lights for my rig”? How can you enjoy the beautiful night sky when all the lights overwhelm your vision? Do you enjoy all the bugs that are attracted to those lights? In my opinion it’s not much different from allowing your campfire smoke to blow into your neighbor’s spot or playing music, watching loud TV or just simply talking too loudly. It’s about respect for others and I think if we had more of it we’d all be much better off in the long run.

    1. Dawn Brown

      Allowing smoke to blow into neighbor’s spot? How do you stop it?

  17. Goldie

    We have lights along the top rails on both sides of our RV. When we are out for the evening we have those lights and the porch light on. When we are home we turn on awning and docking lights when we take the dogs out after dark or just the awning lights if we are sitting outside – and turn them off when we are back inside. Overnight the only thing that is on our motion detecting security lights. If they are on, there’s a reason. Other lights in the CG do not bother us because out shades block them.

  18. T Brown

    They are very inconsiderate idiots

  19. rvgrandma

    I agree, some peoples lights do more than just furnish safety lighting. We have a rope of soft white lights that lay over the handles on our bay doors, so it is about 2 feet above the ground. It also only shines about 5 feet out and isn’t very bright. In fact, the moon often is brighter than the lights! . I leave it on all night because every time I get up to use the bathroom the dogs needs to go out too! I don’t like the door light because it is too bright.

    As for negative articles – I don’t say they are negative but more like you say what many of us think but are afraid to say.

  20. Wolfe

    I said “little” in the poll, but it’s not quite right…. MUCH depends on what level of obnoxiousness there is.

    *I* have a string of LEDs under my awning and shining downward, but I generally use them when I’m outside, walking the dog, or maybe even while inside between being outside. They are ALWAYS off again after 9PM if I’m not outside right THEN.

    When I have been next to SPOT lights and discoballs like you mention, I’ve politely gone next door and asked them to tone it down/turn off whatever is GLARING. I’m polite, and if my lights bugged someone else I’d happily turn them off or (I can) even dim them. Maybe people are afraid of confrontation (I use my judgement of how drunk the neighbor is), but most folks are cooperative even when clueless to annoying others. If you smile and say “Excuse me, I’m teaching my son about star watching; would it be possible to dim your lights for a bit? Thanks!”, you can usually get a smile and compliance back.

  21. Bruce

    One of the major reasons that I leave the metropolitan area is to find dark skies. I often drive many hours or even fly across the county to see the stars, meteors, auroras, milky way — Dark skies are few and far between, so I am against any unnecessary lights. If you absolutely have to have lights, please use only the minimum amount and direct it down. Do not let it shine horizontal in to the eyes of your neighbors. You might be surprised how well you can see at night if you let your eyes become accustom to the dark. .

    1. NEIL RYLANDER

      Maybe take up boondocking? Too much light too late isn’t considerate.

      1. Brian

        a crowded public campground is not were you are going to find happiness, all different kinds of people, with different thoughts on how to have fun. we just left a typical campground that had perimeter lights on at the bathrooms, storage buildings, camp office, street lights on at the parking areas and other areas such as the laundry room propane station all within eye shot of the campers near these stations. I don`t think I`ve ever been to a camp that did not have lights on everywhere. But let another camper leave a light on next to a particular type of person looooooook out.

        1. Wayne quick

          I agree. Wilderness camping is best place to stargaze

  22. Brent

    Another complaint newsletter. Shocker! Chuck, if you want more subscribers as you say you do then stop with the on-going negative articles. Yes, RV’ing has changed, some for the better and some for the worse, but it’s still a great way to experience our country and enjoy life. Find the positives in RV’ing and write about those those instead of always focusing on the bad in this wonderful lifestyle. Have a great day!

    1. frater secessus

      So which of you is focusing on the negatives and overlooking the positives? I can’t remember.

      😛

    2. Chuck Woodbury

      Brent, circulation has increased more since I started talking about things that nobody else talks about. So I don’t know that burying my head in the sand is really very productive. Yes, some readers don’t care to read anything perceived as negative, and I understand, but since I went full time a year ago I have seen many things that I never saw before, not all of it good (in my opinion). But by a large margin the editorial we publish is helpful to our readers, and mostly, I think, positive. If you want warm and fuzzy material, there are plenty of websites that deliver that and only that.

      1. Willie

        Chuck, I’m with you.

        Reading is optional. If you don’t like an article, avert your eyes!

    3. Kat

      I think it’s refreshing that Chuck talks about some of these things. Honestly, most of us travel in RV’s for a reason: to experience the “good life.” Everyone has their own definition of what the “good life” is but, honestly, when neighboring RV’s want to bring the city with them, via lights, TV’s noisy generators, etc. it seems to me they become an annoyance to others. I feel that they could stay home or, if they are full-timers, get a stick built home so they can enjoy “all the comforts of home.” As for me, when I go in my RV, I want it to feel like I am out in nature not sitting in someone’s driveway in the middle of a city. Thanks for bringing some of these topics up Chuck. I think people need to be aware that others may find some of their habits bothersome.

  23. Eric Stadnik

    I’ve heard (multiple times!) the argument that the light discourages mice from invading your RV… but I’ve also seen (multiple times!) mice running over and around the ground-placed lights as if they wern’t there – so much for that logical, functional reason.

  24. Lee

    They are called ‘tacky lights’ for a reason…

  25. Aileen

    I have had two neighbors camping next to us in over twenty five years that literally had spotlights aimed at the side of our rv. They left them on all night. I can’t sleep unless it’s very dark in the bedroom so after the second night of no sleep and mentioning how bright they were to no avail, I went over and unplugged them. They not only left them on all night but all day too. They finally got the message though.

  26. John

    I leave my door light on on those warm evenings when I have the door open but don’t want to forget to shut it when we go to bed. The light helps me notice the door is open, when otherwise it would be missed.

  27. Tumbleweed

    For decades now, Americans have been “trained” to be stupid and fearful, both of which lead to rudeness and an inability to look at a situation from any viewpoint other than their own, to see things as their neighbors will see them. It’s not just a campground problem; it’s a problem everywhere.

  28. Sherry

    Have you ever been to a wedding where the best man wore his shirt open to the waste, or church and the women in front of you is wearing a tube top, a family picnic where your uncles new wife is so made up you mistakenly address her as “Tammy Faye,” People with all those crazy lights on are just begging for attention in the RV park. It’s best to ignore them like their parents must have.

  29. Joel & Betty

    Bright overhead park lights that come through the vents are my pet peeve. But my shades take care of other lights.
    The absolute worst are the fire bugs with wood burning pits…why do the parks have the pits??

  30. Pat

    We have lights on our awning and along the RV under the awning. We would never leave them on all night!! That is super rude! But, isn’t it also rude to assume that everyone should conform to being totally dark in the early evening? Many of the new RVs come with these lights built in because many like them. We have an older TT and we added the strip under the awning. We probably won’t hang up the lights along the edge of the awning at campgrounds, because we won’t be staying long. We use them at home. But even at home, it’s lights out around 10pm. Hubby wants it dark for sleeping. We have black out curtains that work very well to block light, even with the windows open for air flow.

  31. Debra

    Fortunately I don’t stay in RV parks.

    I did get a chuckle though. This article is bemoaning outdoor lights then further down in the newsletter there is an ad for stacker LED lights – LOL!

  32. Gisele

    We have solar string lights (mini mason jars and mini Edison light bulbs) and a solar light patio carpet to keep pack rats away. They are soft white/yellow and are lovely to see when sitting outside, turn on automatically at dusk and turn off after a few hours.
    No disco balls, Christmas lights or spot lights.

  33. Karin Stauder

    As a retired law enforcement officer, 25 yrs, lighting at night around ones RV is a safety issue and is important. Just as it is important to have lighting around your home to keep the criminals away, (they like the cover of darkness), so is it important at a campground. That said, I am definately not a fan of the neon lighting or excessive lighting. I personally want the ability to look out my windows when it is dark and know what is out there before I might need to step outside. It all comes down to reasonableness.

  34. Dave

    Hey Chuck, You won’t have this problem in the boondocks! ????

    1. Morrie Estrada

      Not so. Some people think they have a right to do whatever they want because they are boondocking. This also includes riding quads and motorcycles early or late. Little peace and quiet. Also no host to complain to. I would rather have the light issue.

  35. Egwilly

    I’ve run across both….those I have asked to turn them down. Others were so brite, we asked to turn them off, or considered moving. No chance of that, most places are full.
    Some folks are nice about it. Some not so much.

  36. Anni

    I dont see the point of decorating the outside of your RV with lights…adding to the electrical costs. It really bothers me, especially when the RV’er leaves them on but is inside their rig.
    I would have checked off ‘bothers me and I would politely ask the owners to turn them off’ in survey. I wouldnt ask them to move..seems that would invite an unneccessay confrontation.

  37. Tommy Molnar

    On those occasions when we actually hit an RV Park with full hookups I’ve almost come to expect someone to have a ‘light show’ going on. Red lights aren’t bad on the eyes, but the negative connotation they have probably prevents most from using them. Bright blue lights kill my eyes! Almost like watching a welder without using a mask (well, almost . . .).

    But, I usually just try to ignore it, mumble under my breath, and try to forget it. Life’s too short to worry TOO long about stuff like this.

    As someone else mentioned, if you’re at some huge gathering like NASCAR or a manufacturer’s owner’s group get together, I don’t care WHAT you do. We’ll all be gone next week. I think sometimes we get too worked up over other people who don’t do it “our way”.

  38. Brenda

    We personally hate outside lighting. The light pollution prevents those who like to look up and see the stars impossible.
    One of our favorite parks is Kissimmee Prairie Preserve State Park in Okeechobee Florida. It has recently been designated a Dark Sky Park.
    They have amateur Astronomers who will show you how to read a sky map. The only flashlights allowed are red lights.
    The only time we put on a light is the one by our mhs door when walking the dog at night. We use a flash light for that.

  39. Paul

    We have a set of LED lights on the awning for lighting up the area under the awning at night, also helps when going up or down the steps into the camper. We usually turn them off once we turn in at night and only leave the built in outside yellow light on. One thing I notice about your poll is an all or nothing. Shouldn’t one of the responses be I would politely ask them to turn them off. Why does it have to be I would ask them to move or I would move after complaining. If it bothers you why not ask the neighbor to turn them off? Maybe they don’t realize the problem it is causing.

  40. Teri

    Light pollution is a huge problem. I live in a rural setting and most of the city folks that move into the area seem to be scared of the dark. It drives me nutsss!!!! If you want lights on while sleeping, then go back to the city or go to Wallmart and sleep under there security lights. If you are RV in a close quarter park, your neighbor has a right to not have to see your lights, that you can’t see either as YOU are sleeping. And what kind of security does your lights do for you in an already lit RV park with your neighbor 15 feet away… SHUT THE LIGHTS OFF!!!

    1. terry

      Agree. We go camping to not live on- the- socket. We have old fashioned tiki lanterns with handles to keep outside, also keeps bugs away, have handles to carry to bathhouse or for a walk. Bothers no one else. Torques my jaws to have all those extraneous unnecessary & imposing lights at surrounding sites.
      As for bedtime, many camps have only 6-8 hours of quiet time. Turning off your lights when You go to inside at required 11p while others take advantage of 6a end of quiet time … Only 7 hours of quiet but certainly not 7 hours of sleep! Usually 5, at best. Often must use a/c Bc vents & Windows must be closed due to noise/ lights even in great sleeping weather…not really what we’re camping for…
      We consider quiet time to be around dusk in summer when we sit around fire until max 10p., and 8 pm in winter, so all can wind down, enjoy the environment, and go to bed when needed for their own sleep needs. Kids usually put to bed by 7:30, teens are up but follow our lead. Some camps have quiet & lights out, 10p -8a, which iseems great for all.

  41. Donna Dodd

    We turn our outside lights off when we go inside for the night – usually not long after the posted quiet hours. We have considered motion sensitive lights to help out with security and for those middle of the night “the dog just has to go pee right now” moments. I’m one that loves to sleep with windows open because fresh air and the sounds of nature at night are soothing.

  42. Brian B

    In certain areas there are furry critters called pack rats. Light underneath will make them go somewhere else instead of going into your rv or car or truck. They are nocturnal thus don’t light light. This is a proven fact by people like me and others I know that have spent many dollars paying for damage from
    animals eating wires and and rubber etc. Many wire harnesses have soy products mixed in with the wire coating to make the coating cheaper. The heat from engines and furnaces etc attracts them on cold nights as well as mice. In the desert southwest this is especially a problem. I thought the lights were irritating until I had this problem and I haven’t had any more trouble. Knock on wood .

  43. Rhonnie

    I rarely spend time in RV parks. So I can’t really say it bothers me… However, I do get invited to Feast days on occasion, and in the larger gatherings it seems EVERYBODY has their camp space lit. Especially on Sukkot! I like tents, so you can imagine spending the entire week with daylight 24/7… lol
    Yeah, I only sleep well if I keep busy and exhaust myself…
    To be fair, this is as much a personal tent marker for late night activity as it is decor in this case. Cheap as I am, I memorize the neighbor’s displays so I can find my little dark pop up hotel hidden in the corner… But you can sure bet, I’m ready for wide open, uninhabited spaces after the celebration. XD

  44. Willie

    Folks, light pollution is is bad as noise pollution. It’s obnoxious. Please turn off your exterior lights at night!

    The classic self-centered violators are those in specific dark sky locations who leave a bright white porch light on all night. They just don’t get it.

  45. bloom

    I’m not sure if we’re an offender or not. I leave a string of adjustable LED lights on my awning tube turned down to their lowest setting and in red. Almost like a nightlight and much less bright that any RV site marker lights.
    Occasionally we’ll put a dim set of red, white and blue LED rope lights around my flagpole to illuminate my US flag. As soon as I get my first negative comment on either we’ll take them down or turn them off.

    1. Sherry

      Yes, I’m sorry to tell you that even that much light would bother me if I were your neighbor. And I would be aghast at seeing someone lighting up a flagpole. I LOVE the dark. There is nothing like sitting, standing, or walking outside in total darkness. You actually hear more wonderful sounds in the dark, and can literally feel the caress of the night air more. I go camping for two reasons–to be outside in the daytime, and to be outside in the dark! I go out every night that it isn’t raining and enjoy the dark sky, enjoying the stars, planets, constellations, and the moon. I try never to miss a meteor shower, and the darker it is, the more meteors I see. Try it sometime and see if you don’t enjoy the dark as much as I do.

  46. Alaska Traveler

    I think, perhaps, if the article had not been so negative about outside lights, the answers would have been less negative. I have never been offended by other’s outside lights, I usually love them. We usually have solar lights around ours. The only thing I’m offended by is smoke coming through my open windows, loud barking and loud music after 9PM. I guess this means we’ll have to forego the solar “display” to keep from offending.

    1. Terry

      We who are not camping to have our vision constantly interrupted by others’ light shows illuminating their rig sides and invading the sky beauty God already has in place, thank you.
      We have a couple of built in yellow lights to be able t use steps /door, but not affect our entire site much less our neighboring sites. We do leave them on when away if returning after dark… Less intrusive to environment than a bright white flashlight .

  47. Howard Jacobs

    I suppose I’m a light offender. I have a couple of string lights hanging from my awning. Not real bright but colorful. I’ve heard compliments but no complaints. I would modify my lights if asked. I happen to like to see decorated sites.

    1. Terry

      The colored lights do not seem to intrude as much, similar to a string of Christmas lights. My feeling as that while you’re outside enjoying your space, or in & out for cooking tasks, use your lights as you desire to have that enjoyment. Just be cognizant of how/whether those lights create intrusions on others’ sites. And be considerate. Nt everyone wants the backyard party patio while camping, many leave home to get away from it.

  48. Christi

    It is like our neighbor at our home home. He keeps his flood lights on all around his house all night long. Just glad that our bedroom is not not where I can see them. I guess I am too much of a realist, I think it is a waste of electricity. In the last campground we were in, a new trend, too, is putting up these string lights all around the inside of canopy or screened in porch and leaving them on all night. Again waste of electricity, making the rates go up for all of us.

  49. Chris B

    My husband likes to leave some lights on outside overnight for security purposes, you don’t seem to have given that as an option?

    1. David S

      IMO, leaving lights on for “security purpose” would only help a would be thief by allowing them to see your stuff and provide them a lighted view of their pathway.

    2. Egwilly

      We use a “scare” light to provide the security.
      Only comes on when someone approaches.

    3. Morrie Estrada

      My porch light has a motion sensor. Only comes on when someone or something is about. I take my solar yard lights camping and put them on the ground like at home. Lots of compliments from fellow campers.

  50. PGR

    Chuck unfortunately this is all about people who have the attitude “My rights are more important than everyone else’s.” It’s become a American tradition, especially in the past several years, until people start to realize their rights doesn’t mean infringing on other people’s rights things are only going to get worse.

    As someone who’s lived ¾ of a century and been van camping for over fifty years I’ve seen it all, heard it all, and donemost of it.

    I applaud you and your dedication to “telling it like it is”! In a world of charlatans, liers, crooks and bully’s you are a fresh breath – keep up your good work because the lifestyle (and the industry) needs you.

    Thank you Chuck for this endeavor and your hard work.

    1. Eric Meslin

      I agree that people seem to have attitude. What happened to treating others how you would like to be treated? Politeness should govern where one sets up camp, how much noise they make, which way the smoke from their fire goes, and lighting that bothers neighbors. We have been in campsites so close to another unit that we had to forgo our campfire. Even if not close, I still pay attention to the wind direction. I once used my awning LED lights to take the dog out and forgot to turn them off. I felt so bad about it I haven’t used them much since. Mostly just use a LED head light or flashlight (they work fine). Usually the darker the campground (mostly public, not private) the less lighting we use.

  51. Deb

    I agree that lighting is just as rude as loud noise. I am even bothered by ‘street lights’ in campgrounds. Sadly, I can’t get my trailer to block it all out.

  52. scott

    In my opinion, it all depends where you are camping. If you are in a nice quiet and dark Utah park it’s lights out, when we are at the phoenix nascar race it’s all on, I have a 22 foot flagpole flying the Canadian flag with a 3 foot light bar on top.

    1. BENNY

      YOU SHOULD FLY YOUR CANADIAN FLAG IN Canada NOT IN THE USA. I THINK IT IS DISRESPECTABLE TO MY COUNTRY. I DO NOT FLY MY AMERICAN FLAG WHEN I VISIT YOUR COUNTRY.

      1. Patti L

        Why not? Are you ashamed of it? It is not “disrespectable” to fly the flag of your nation wherever you may be. As for lights, well some of our neighbors put on some fun displays, but so far nothing too obnoxious and they go off after quiet time begins. Our park is pretty heavily wooded so the lights don’t really affect us all that much, but are fun to look at on evening walks around to say hello.

        1. Sherry

          The problem with waiting until “quiet time” to turn off the lights is that those of us who star gaze, watch the wildlife, or just love to be outside breathing in the dark would have to stay up long past our bedtime to enjoy those activities. Quiet time is bedtime for many of us.

  53. Sue

    My laptop blocks the surveys but my phone doesn’t. When I want to respond to the surveys, I get on my phone.

    1. Sue

      I meant that as a response to Jerome’s comment below.

    2. RV Staff

      Thanks, Sue. Good to know for those who have trouble seeing the surveys. 😀 —Diane at RVtravel.com

  54. Joe Gillmer

    I would like to think he now has more bugs than my somewhat darker site. Lights do bug me but my m/h has two sides

  55. Mel

    Chuck you are getting cranky in your old age. What do you think blinds in your RV are for? Live and let live. There are much more important things to worry about instead of the lights on someone else’s RV.
    Mel

    1. Chuck Woodbury

      Mel,
      Blinds are for keeping your neighbors in the next space 15 feet away from watching you and your significant other get dressed and undressed. They’re for keeping strangers from looking in on you at other times you don’t want them looking in. The neighbor who forces his illumination on me is rude the same as the guy who plays his music so loud so the whole campground can hear. You go ahead and close your blinds, I like mine open so I can enjoy fresh air. I probably am more cranky these days than when I was younger. Rudeness bothers me a whole lot more.

      1. Susan F

        Agree Chuck, blinds are for providing privacy. Our last neighbor, here in a very popular Central Florida RV dealers’ park (ahem), had lights under his Class A that constantly changed color. He left them on all night. Besides feeling like we were back at the disco, the humming noise was audible inside our rig. Again, in the 3 days we were neighbors, they never once spent time outside enjoying said light show.
        As an aside, sadly rudeness is becoming the norm.

      2. Egwilly

        I turned 71 this year….agree with you. Seems our tolerance levels drop some as we age.

  56. Jerome Mueller

    I thought there was supposed to be a survey in this article. I don’t see it.

    1. RV Staff

      Hi, Jerome. I just double-checked and I can see the survey. In fact, there have been 68 responses so far. Maybe your computer blocks popups and that’s why you can’t see it? Maybe you can turn off the popup blocker for this page? Good luck. —Diane at RVtravel.com

      1. Chuck Woodbury

        Jerome, the poll is sometimes slow to load on the page, especially if you are not on a fast Internet connection.

        1. Vic mazzaro

          Chuck,
          I bought a travel trailer which has an LED white light which is pretty bright so I now purchased a led boogie light which enables me to dim the colored light down so I hopefully don’t bother my neighbors. I want the light on for security and in case someone tries to steal my things. I can’t see bolting down my things every night So yes I’m lazy but I’ve never had anything stolen either.

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